Releasing Private Credentials on the Internet

Posted on November 18, 2007
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See this post on Bruce Schneier's security blog:

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/11/dan_egerstad_ar.html

 I will post my own comment to it in the comments of this post; you can see them on Bruce's blog as well.  I must be feeling contrary; I chose to take the less popular position.

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One Response to “Releasing Private Credentials on the Internet”

  1. Rab on November 18th, 2007 4:30 pm

    By operating a Tor server, Egerstad was offering a service. If any of the users exposed on the Internet were legitimate owners of the accounts, didn’t he betray the trust of those users by posting email credentials? Never mind that it was easy to do; it is always easy to exploit people who trust in a security measure, or a person’s intentions. You can not say, to quote Bruce in his podcast for Educause, “it’s her fault for walking down that ally.” (Bruce, you seem to disagree in your post above, but I know we are not comparing apples to apples here… sorry if I am mis-using that statement).

    I think releasing the credentials the way he did may have been a lapse in judgment. Yes the community needs to know that the tool they are using can be exploited, and easily. But the “shock” approach is not the only way to market and distribute an important piece of knowledge, and probably not the best way.

    If no damage was done as a result of his actions, perhaps Egerstad will come out of this without any further consequence. If there is no specific law about posting other people’s private credentials on a public web site, better still for him. But you can look at this from a liability standpoint as well.

    Suspend disbelief for a moment and assume that, prior to the release of account credentials, nobody with malicious intent had compromised the account belonging to the Office of the Dalai Lama. As a result of the posting, the account could be compromised, and people or governments wishing to subvert Tibetan independence could prosper from the information, to the detriment of the Dalai Lama. If nothing else, Egerstad would have committed a tort against the Office of the Dalai Lama. Whether there would ever be a consequence for Egerstad, I do not know. But if he thought it through, would he want to potentially subvert Tibetan independence?

    I admit that the above has movie-plot elements. But even if I have to resort to reductio ad absurdum, it seems like the question of whether Egerstad did something wrong should be argued. There is certainly the potential for wrong, is there not? Why increase the security/privacy risk to the users of his own exit node? Is that raping someone to prove that rape is a possibility?

    If Egerstad defines himself as a researcher, his best approach is to research a better way of protecting privacy on the Internet and submit it to peer review. An open-source project, even a ‘fork’ project, would be possible suggestions. Another approach would have been to raise awareness of the problem without increasing anyone’s exposure to risk, if possible. Instead he took action without knowing (or caring?) what the result would be. Acting without knowing the consequences of your actions, in legal terms, can amount to either negligence or recklessness.

    On the note of recklessness, recall that Egerstad is quoted as saying ‘Screw it, I’m just going to put it online and see what happens’. That is from the article here. Note that he might have elevated the charges against himself from negligence to recklessness in that quote, if laws in his country are similar to US laws on such matters. What is important for Egerstad to know is this: if his actions damaged an innocent party, he was either reckless, or at best negligent. I hope I am not alone in my feeling that a ’security researcher’ should avoid recklessness.

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